How to Prevent “Green-to-Gone” Accounts

Episode 104

, published

August 28, 2026

Most account teams don't lose customers overnight. They lose them slowly, through signals nobody caught in time. Knowing how to identify at-risk customers before they churn is the difference between a controlled loss and a surprise that blindsides the whole business.

On Account Management Secrets, host Alex Raymond talks with Daniel Santiago, Senior Vice President of Customer Success at OrthoFi, about the net revenue retention strategy that took his team from 85% to 108% net revenue retention. Daniel explains the watch list system he built to catch what he calls "green-to-gone" accounts before they slip away.

Daniel walks through how OrthoFi worked to reduce customer churn in the first six months of a relationship, and how his team aims to keep churn forecasts within a plus-or-minus-five-percent tolerance. He also breaks down how quarterly business review best practices changed at OrthoFi, shifting QBRs from tactical fixes to conversations built on real data. Along the way, he unpacks net revenue retention vs gross revenue retention and what that fifteen-point spread reveals about a customer base.

Listen to hear how Daniel built a culture where flagging risk early gets rewarded instead of punished, and what it takes to run a customer success team on outcomes instead of instinct.

Episode Breakdown:

00:00 Welcome and Daniel Santiago's Path to OrthoFi

06:45 Splitting Customer Success From the Sales Org

11:48 Fixing the First Six Months to Cut Early Churn

18:35 How to Identify At-Risk Customers Before They Churn

21:00 The “Green-to-Gone” Problem and Building Psychological Safety

24:52 Minimizing Forecast Variance for Accurate Renewals

29:01 Turning QBRs Into Real Business Conversations

36:17 What Private Equity Expects From Customer Success

40:00 Net Revenue Retention Targets and Staying Power at OrthoFi

Connect with Daniel Santiago:

Connect with Daniel on LinkedIn

Visit the OrthoFi website

Connect with Alex Raymond:

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Visit the AMplify website

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